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RE: Profiling ([split] Baytown Talk closed???)

Before I get into the meat of what I would like to say....HERE IS A DISCLAIMER:

I AM A CHRISTIAN AND I BELIEVE THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE TO BE TRUTH.
However, I think people take Revelation way too literally.

I think Obama is a dynamic leader who has new ideas and is willing to do things differently than anyone before. I think we live in a time if anyone has a Muslim last name they are automatically targeted and distrusted.

Let me ask this, if Barack Obama's name was John Smith would there be all this clamour about the "Anti-Christ?" I think not.

I think we should stop letting our fear and anger over 9/11 and other awful events in the world get the best of us. I have read countless email forwards about Obama that contain false and or missing information at best. I've seen political cartoons that are offensive and racist. Who is the real Anti-Christ? Obama? Or the people who have forgotten what Christ said about being tolerant and loving? Many Christians and non-Christians alike have instead become prejudiced and hateful towards other members of the human race for something they cannot help or control. (race, ethnicity)

Christians do more to cause division sometimes than Obama ever could. To me, forgetting Christ's message and instead adopting your own in Christ's name is Anti-Christ.


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Jul 02, 2008 02:11 PM
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That was beautifully said, Common Sense and I agree with you 100%

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"who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace"


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Jul 02, 2008 02:54 PM
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BYS... by your logic, Bill Clinton should have been the antichrist. Wait, somebody already thought that too!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...E_ID=21829

Before you begin labeling folks as the antichrist, you're going to need to show some example that the book of revelation was anything more than a hallucination.

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George,

You already know that a Christian cannot "prove" the Bible as true just as you cannot prove that it isn't true. As a historical document, the Bible is very weak. We don't have proof who wrote it, when it was written, we don't have the documentation we need or the information about the men who are said to have written it, etc. It doesn't contain a real representative view of all walks of life (women, etc.) of that time. But, to one of faith, whatever their reasons for believing are, that doesn't matter.

I wasn't always a Christian but I had a very strange thing happen when I was a teenager that changed me forever. That was the "proof" I needed. But, that's just me.

I just think some people take things in it too literally and pick and choose to suit their agenda. That is definitely annoying. But, that isn't exclusive to Christians either.

It is my opinion that the Christians who try to stuff Christianity down people's throats and attack them for not believing aren't doing it for the right reasons. I cringe when I see stuff like that because they are doing it for themselves and their own sick sense of pride and right-fighting rather than for the Lord and the sake of that person. Atheists who attack Christians I feel the same way about. They aren't mad at Christianity or the Christian persay, they are angry about other issues in their lives and the anger is coming forth in that manner.


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There is the possibility that atheists who attack Christians are simply tired of the influence of Christianity on society, when there isn't valid evidence to suggest that those influences are essentially valid. I personally get angered by the idea that a major influence on our society dictates that certain "sinful" actions are going to mean that people get tortured for eternity, and that because of this mentality, certain segments of the population can be treated as lower, poisonous, or damaging.

Also, I do understand that Christians can not prove the bible as true. There is, though, good evidence to suggest that the bible is not true, in that the things it claims are not present in reality. Talking snakes, non-consumed talking burning bushes, blindness being reversed through mud application, rising from the dead, etc. are not real things. These are the products of fantasy. If these types of things actually existed, then we could start to talk about the validity of the bible. As it stands, it is mythology.

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