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Colorado Law: 'Publishing of Discriminative Matter Forbidden'
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RE: Colorado Law: 'Publishing of Discriminative Matter Forbidden'

You are perfectly correct. Christianity serves as a controlling influence on the morality of the masses. Now, is Christianity the only controlling influence that can and has been imposed by mankind throughout social history? Hardly. Any form of dogmatic mindset, when enforced as a system of morality, is a controlling influence. For you to argue for Christianity in this sense, shows that you are only arguing from a stance that you hold as personally acceptable. The rise in these types of things in society is not because of a lack of Christianity, it is because of a lack of embraced social morality. Morality is hardly exclusive to Christianity.

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ggeorge2814 Wrote:
You are perfectly correct. Christianity serves as a controlling influence on the morality of the masses. Now, is Christianity the only controlling influence that can and has been imposed by mankind throughout social history? Hardly. Any form of dogmatic mindset, when enforced as a system of morality, is a controlling influence. For you to argue for Christianity in this sense, shows that you are only arguing from a stance that you hold as personally acceptable. The rise in these types of things in society is not because of a lack of Christianity, it is because of a lack of embraced social morality. Morality is hardly exclusive to Christianity.

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Thanks, G. I was having a hard time figuring out how to articulate that point. Steve Martin once said, "Some people have a way with words, and others... um... oh, I don't know... not have way I guess."

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It always seems that you post the proper response when the cat has my tongue as well!

I just realized.. as an adult, the saying "cat has my tongue" has much more meaning! lol.
(not to be crude)

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ggeorge2814 Wrote:
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So you are saying that because of the few things listed on the site you posted, that Christians are heavily persecuted in this country? Really? When I watch television, I see Christianity portrayed positively more than negatively. Also, you think that handing out atheist "tracts" to students is Christian persecution? Gideons hand out bibles all the time.. what is that, atheist persecution? lol. Christians are pampered in this country, and especially for the last 8 years. A few, unrelated incidents, collected by worthynew.com does not show Christian persecution. Also, I said initially that Christianity is probably the LEAST persecuted segment of the population. This website does nothing to contradict that.

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If any civil disturbance by a resistance group, religious organization
The key here is civil disturbance. Anytime there is civil disturbance by any group, the authorities have authority to take action. This is not a sign of Christian persecution, also because it states "religious organization," not Christian organization.

"Annex A, section B of Operation Garden Plot defines tax protesters, militia groups, religious cults, and general anti-government dissenters as Disruptive Elements. This calls for the deadly force to be used against any extremist or dissident perpetrating any and all forms of civil disorder."
This talks about religious cults. Are you saying that Christianity is a religious cult? I mean, I agree, but I hardly think that the U.S. government views Christianity as a religious cult.

Like I said initially, you both believe that these are signs of Christian persecution because your religion tells you to expect persecution. It's like finding a devil behind every bush. When Christians start getting harmed because of the practice of their faith, instead of harming others because of their faith, I'll listen to those arguments. Until then, the only thing you can argue is intolerance, and well.. there is a lot that Christianity promotes that I don't think should be tolerated.

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It also said "religious organization". A church is a religious organization.

And some of the holiness churches have been referred to as cults. It all depends on how a judge perceives it.

We would also be called "general anti-government dissenters" if speaking out against homosexuality becomes a hate crime.


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Look... the KKK is protected in speaking out against other races. When they cross the line into civil disturbance or civil disorder, then the authorities step in. Christians will always be protected in speaking out against whatever they wish. When Christians cross the line into civil disturbance or civil disorder, they will be limited and penalized by the authorities as well. This will still not be a case of Christian persecution. This will be a case of protecting society.

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