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This is ridiculous. Since so many people can't spell, it has been suggested that we start accepting that fact and just let people slide by without expecting them to learn. This is how ebonics was started. When so many people couldn't speak English correctly, instead of expecting them to learn, we labeled their atrocious grammar as a new language.

When too many can't meet the standards, just lower your standards. How sad.

(From Time.com)

Most teachers expect to correct their students' spelling mistakes once in a while. But Ken Smith has had enough. The senior lecturer in criminology at Bucks New University in Buckinghamshire, England, sees so many misspellings in papers submitted by first-year students that he says we'd be better off letting the perpetrators off the hook and doing away with certain spelling rules altogether.

Good spellers, Smith says, should be able to go on writing as usual; those who find the current rules of English too hard to learn should have their spelling labeled variant, not wrong. Smith zeroes in on 10 candidates for variant spellings, culled from his students' most commonly misspelled (or mispelled, as Smith suggests) words. Among them are Febuary instead of February, twelth instead of twelfth and truely instead of truly — all words, he says, that involve confusion over silent letters. When students would ask why there's no e in truly, Smith didn't really have an answer. "I'd say, 'Well, I don't know. ... You've just got to drop it because people do,' " he says. Smith adds that when teachers correct spelling, they waste valuable time they could be spending on bigger ideas.

Word nerds aren't the only ones with a stake in the proposal. People who have trouble with spelling are punished when it comes to applying for jobs or even filling out forms, even though their mistakes are far from unusual, says Jack Bovill, chairman of the British-based Spelling Society, an international organization that has advocated simplified spellings since 1908. A 2007 Spelling Society survey of 1,000 British adults found that more than half could not spell embarrassed or millennium correctly and more than a quarter struggled with definitely, accidentally and separate.

Smith and Bovill are part of a long and illustrious line of spelling malcontents. Benjamin Franklin, Andrew Carnegie, Teddy Roosevelt and even Noah Webster, father of American lexicography, all lobbied for spelling reform, their reasons ranging from traumatic childhood spelling experiences to the hope that easier communication would promote peace. In 1906, Mark Twain lobbied the Associated Press to use phonetic spelling. "The heart of our trouble is with our foolish alphabet," he once wrote. "It doesn't know how to spell, and can't be taught."

Non-English-speaking countries have been simplifying their spelling for centuries: Spain, France, Germany, Russia, Norway, Ireland, Indonesia and Japan, among others, have all instituted such reforms; Portugal in May amended its spelling to follow the simpler Brazilian rules. Since 1755, when the English language was standardized in Samuel Johnson's aptly named Dictionary of the English Language, many variant spellings have become widely accepted on both sides of the pond. In 1864, for instance, the U.S. government officially changed the spelling of words like centre and timbre to end in the variant -er; more recently, at the beginning of the 20th century, fantasy became an accepted variant of phantasy.

But some language purists insist that there is value to the top-down rules of English. "People who spell a lot of words incorrectly either aren't paying attention or don't care," says Barbara Wallraff, who writes the Wordcourt column on language and writing problems for the Atlantic and King Features Syndicate. "Why are we changing our language to accommodate — with two m's — them?"

Joe Pickett, executive editor of the American Heritage Dictionary, says that changes to dictionary entries are always on the table, but he and his seven fellow editors are a tough crowd. They keep an eye on print publications to see whether a variant usage has started to become mainstream. Any word that seems to be a good candidate for an update undergoes rigorous scrutiny as the editors seek input from a panel of some 200 orthographic and lexicographic whizzes. Even among this writerly crowd, 13% admitted in 1996 to combining a lot into a single word. But 93% still considered it an error and corrected it in their own writing — leading the editors not to change the entry. Variants are added to the dictionary, Pickett says, "only when we're really convinced that even people like us don't notice [the misspelling] much."

Smith, for his part, insists that he is advocating only for minor changes. "I'm not saying to people who have actually gone to all the trouble to learn all the exceptions to the rule that they should unlearn it. I'm just saying, let's have a few more variant spellings," he says. And if that doesn't catch on, he has another idea. "In the 21st century, why learn by heart rote spelling when you can just type it into a computer and spell-check?" he asks.
This is truly sad. Of course, I spent 12 years as an instructor in a corporate environment and it completely baffled me how these folks, most with at least an associates degree were able to get through school without being able to spell, much less construct a sentence. And to think, technically, I'm a "high school drop-put" (long story... maybe another time).

Of course, the article seemed to pick out some words that may be a bit more difficult to many, and I might occasionally let one slip by, but it's usually from not paying attention and not from illiteracy.

I must take issue with the article, as it's not usually the words they even chose to portray as difficult, but the bigger problem I see is in words that are more common, yet many don't even know the difference between or proper spelling of such words as:
there, their, they're
no, know, now (thinking this is "know")
then, than (I don't think most know that "than" is even a word)

Yes, there are many, many more... It just aggravates me to think about it. Illiteracy is rampant. I found myself calling conferences with teachers, counselors & principals when my kids were in school, because they allowed misspelled words in SPELLING TESTS!

Of course, in my day, they still used red pens to grade our papers. Personally, I'm a bit fed up with the "feel good" society. It's no wonder the U.S. lags much of the world in literacy.

I remember one of the "cool" things when I was a kid, was being able to spell supercalifragilisticespialidocious. If you're not familiar with it, go find the movie, Mary Poppins. While it may be a 'made-up' word, it just illustrates a time that people took the effort to learn and feel good about their accomplishments.

Now, while typing this, I missed a couple of words while trying to type too fast (well, too fast for me... I might do 40-45 on copy and 35-40 when I have to think about it), and saw a red line under the word, so I could go back and correct it. So, what really baffles me, is when I see words spelled incorrectly in various forums that have built-in spell check. That tells me that some people just don't care if they appear illiterate.

I think our schools would do a lot better, if they got rid of "teaching the TAKS" (or whatever they call it today) and just got back to teaching the material... starting with the BASICS: Reading, Riting & Rithmetic.
Oh... 8Ball, no offense, but I can't help myself. Go back and read the first sentence your post. It's spelled RIDICULOUS Wink "jest" pickin' on ya a little. Tongue

And YES, I know it's Reading, Writing & Arithmetic. It's was an intentional play on spelling vs. the way I've seen others spell 'riting' and rithmitic" by those same adult illiterates I had in many classes.

All in all, I think we're definitely on the same page, as I think it's ridiculous, too.
Yikes! And I was so careful to spell everything correctly on this thread! lol. Oh well, I'm human and I don't nomally use a spell check. However, if I am ever uncertain of the spelling of a word, I throw it into a google search to see if it comes up with alternate spellings. I just got into a hurry hehe

I'm a high school drop out too, txna. I went back for my GED, then taught myself enough about computers and the internet to get a respectable career. Instead of expecting the world to conform to me (spelling and grammar included) and accept me for what I was, I went out and carved myself a life. I'm not saying I'm anything special, but this is the mentality we will lose by ceasing to expect people to be able to spell correctly or speak intelligently. Instead of holding society to standards, we are about to bring our standards down a notch. Then what do we do in ten or twenty more years when people can't meet THOSE standards? Bring them down another notch?

You're right about the article picking on generally hard to spell words. But I think it was just mentioning the tip of the iceburg, the most notorious problem words. If they had written more, I bet they would have mentioned your other examples such as "they're", "their" and "there."

And yes, we are moving more towards a "feel good society" every day. It's the "I'm ok, you're (not your) ok" attitude. Heaven forbid we should confront someone and tell them that they are illiterate or ignorant. We must accept their improper English and tell them how special they are for having created a new language. The last thing we want to do is offend them. It's better to let people live in ingnorance and to let them feel good about themselves than to expect them to raise their standards and join society.

I was in my school's spelling B in 5th grade. I still remember how to spell "mathematician," a word I learned specifically for that contest. I took pride in knowing how to spell that word when I was 9. I didn't spell it incorrectly and then ask the judges to accept my wrong answer as a "new spelling." Who knows what spelling B's will be like twenty years from now.

Ok, now to fix my typo.... Tongue

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This is ridiculous. Since so many people can't spell, it has been suggested that we start accepting that fact and just let people slide by without expecting them to learn. This is how ebonics was started. When so many people couldn't speak English correctly, instead of expecting them to learn, we labeled their atrocious grammar as a new language.


I disagree. I don't think this is how ebonics 'started'. I think ebonics is more or less a dialect of the English language, much like Cajun English, Pennyslvania dutch, Appalachian, etc. I know I've listened to someone with a southern dialect, which is also riddled with bad grammer. Same thing when you talk to someone from Boston, or New Jersey. They each have their own colloquialisms, etc.

OH! YES! THOSE were (not we're) some of the others that didn't quickly come to (not too or two) mind (and yes, it has a "d", not an "e" on the end), as well... Your, You're and the dreaded "ur".

Yes, we're (not were) both definitely on (not own) the same page with this topic. I agree whole (not hole) heartedly (not heartily).

I, too, got my GED when I was in the Air Force, AFTER I finished 9 months of electronics training (I'm not bad in math, either). No prep classes... just took the GED tests and passed. I've never got through enough college courses to even get an associates, yet I worked my way up the corporate ladder into technical support and training, which also encompassed the compilation of training materials, course outlines, tests and everything else to try to teach these others with their "gimme" degrees (and a few even had BA's and still couldn't spell... but I won't name names).

It comes down to the fact, that when I went to school, the teachers taught and you were expected to learn... plain and simple. That's what's missing today. It's time they pulled their red pens out and start using them, again.
Other dialects still conjugate verbs. Ebonics says "I be", "you be", "we be"... Not even respecting verb conjugation says you are lazy and refuse to speak correctly.
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