YES.

She would be considered in my opinion a good role model for carrying the baby to term AND a bad role model for getting pregnant out of wedlock.

She made a mistake by getting pregnant. This is not something to be commended. She didn't kill the
baby because of her mistake, that is to be commended

Ed,

It looks like Bob has been doing a good job of keeping your arguments in check. The one thing that I want to comment on is this"

G you're doing lots of assuming today. I'm not interested in punishing women. I'm interested in protecting a life that can't protect itself.

Is it an assumption to say that there are punishments for breaking laws? I don't think so. If abortion is made illegal, there will be punishments for breaking that law. Since you support making abortion illegal, what do you feel is just punishment for mothers that break the law and have abortions anyway? You can't just want to make things illegal without thinking of the consequences.

"G"

Is it just me, or did Edtwo completely evade the question I posed - about whether or not those that are pro-life would support legislation making it illegal for a woman to lose her job after becoming pregnant while unmarried, even if it means that your own child's teacher could be teaching your child while umarried and pregnant.

Not so long ago, people knew how easy it was to corrupt children and society were very careful about the character of teachers.
This was on the wall of an early 20th century classroom at a museum near me:

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With all due respect, I had a response to your straw man question. Here’s my quote:

“Can they really fire a woman just for being pregnant? That doesn't sound right.”

Its pretty obvious where I stand on the issue. I didn’t ignore your question. But, I’ll take this opportunity to add to my thoughts.. I find it sad, that we’ve “evolved” or “progressed” as a society that we even find it necessary to even ask such questions. I do think teachers have a moral obligation on teaching our children about one’s character, their integrity and reputation. I think the Rules that macolligas posted are a good example how we used to as a society take these character issues very seriously. Today, since we now live in a society where no one is allowed to claim what’s absolutely morally right or absolutely morally wrong. The children essentially learn today, “anything goes”. There's no absolute rigth or wrongs.Who are we to judge others morals? Hence today, society ends up with, not only an increase in pregnancies among the teenage population, but an attitude change. Where they were once ashamed at being pregnant at 13, now they’re proud to be pregnant at 13.

Don’t worry Bob, I’m not in favor of taking away your freedom of allowing a unwed pregnant teacher to be a moral role model to any of your children. We live in a free country, and my wife and I choose to home school.

“G’, not sure what you read to beleive Bob is keeping me in 'check". Bob wants the have open the option for the mother to kill the baby in an unwanted pregnancy, I disagree.
All I saw BOB try and do was discredit me personally, by accusing me of avoiding his questions.

I have found that’s often what liberals like to do. When they run out of argument, they go after the one making the argument. in an attempt to discredit them.

“G”,bless your heart, you're trying to do just the opposite. You attempted to build the person you aggree with up. LOL..I just thought it was funny, how you try to win "points"

Gentleman, lets keep these arguments based on the merits of the issues Lets not try and “win points” by discrediting those you disagree with and add words of admiration to those you agree with…How’s that?

macolligas, even Abraham Lincoln recognized the dangerous power of schools to shape the next generation::

“The philosophy of the classroom in this generation will be the philosophy of politics, government and life in the next.” A. Lincoln.

This post was last modified: Jul 07, 2008 07:01 AM by EdTwo.

Ed,

I see you're still true to form, in that when you come up against a question that would show your stance to be unjustified, you simply don't answer, or you evade.

Oh, and you did evade Bob's question, even after he gave you an example to validate his scenario.

Also, I said that Bob was keeping your arguments in check... not you. Don't cry character attack. If you feel you are being treated unjustly, there is a "report" button at the bottom of every post. You can click this and let the administrators decide if correction needs to be made.

Finally, a "straw man" argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. Bob simply constructed a scenario which he asked you to set up against your proposed morality. He didn't misinterpret your position to make this scenario. FYI.

"G"

This post was last modified: Jul 07, 2008 09:25 AM by ggeorge2814.